Industrialism,Fossil Fuel Combustion, destroys climate that created post ice age Civilization
For those who are so ignorant as to claim we are a 'post industrial' economy or civilization - think again. Industrialism was a term coined by French economist and 19th Century cult hero Count Henry Claude Rovroy De Saint Simon who believed it would lead to utopia and who would certainly have second thoughts now.True,Count Henri Saint Simon did not define industrialism as burning fossil carbon to make metal move but that WAS EXACTLY WHAT IT DID AND DOES TODAY.Just like pre industrial agrarian civilizations that arose after the last ice age such as the Maya or Greece or Rome or Tigris Euphrates agriculture for that matter before collapsing due in large part to soil depletion and erosion,our present 'civilization' will collapse soon enough as well.Our 'leaders' are so ignorant and violent they even destroy the ruins of Tigris Euphrates in Iraq that should have been a bio-regional human histiory and heritage museum because of its was a or the crale of civilization and agriculture civilization as we know it was always and still is based upon.
Just as modern archeologists refer to the collapse of the last major Maya archeological sites in Meso America or Mexico and Guatemala as Late Classic Maya , so we should be called Late Classic Industrial
'civilization'.
http://politicalandsciencerhymes.blogspot.com/2011/09/industrialism_17.html
Industrialism
Industrialism...
by Tony Ryals
It started out in England,by Tony Ryals
On a coal seam that seemed to have no end,
And had repercussions neither Adam
Smith nor Carl Marx could comprehend,
And while we fought over the delusions
of communism and capitalism - it grew,
It was industrialism that always united the two,
Now we pump oil from the earth,
And mine fossil fertilizer to give us birth,
As Bob Dylan said, "None of them along the line
know what any of it's worth",
Fossil carbon is burned, and metal is turned,
just as in England in the 18th century,
We continue with our entropy,
This basic technology,
Is still our philosophy,
Not communism or capitalism,
This technology so noble,
Even built Chernobyl,
Fossil carbon is burned,
And metal is turned,
This addiction now to oil,
Takes us more to foreign soil,
This world industrialism,
Is a new colonialism,
That can only lead to schism,
Strategic minerals outside our boundaries,
Lead o geopohtical quandaries,
Yet we go on squandering
What we should be monitoring,
Fossil carbon is burned and metal is turned,
Giving more power to the industrialists- we call it free trade,
Only magnifies mistakes we've already made,
China now rips coal from the ground as fast as it can;
Mexico pumps oil to ship to Japan,
The rest of Asia and South America have the same plan,
It ain't communism or capitalism - its industrialism,
It builds freeways for our cars,
And computers for our wars,
General Eisenhower's military industrial complex,
Remains our Frankenstein - our Tyrannosaurus Rex,
Those who would say we're in a post industrial society,
Should be tested for sobriety,
Or at least show a little more piety,
To their big, unstable brother - industrialism,
..............
http://politicalandsciencerhymes.blogspot.com/2011/09/civilization.html
Civilization
by Tony Ryals
Around the world the ruins lay,
Reminders of a better day,
Modern man he doesn't heed them,
Only for tourism do they please him,
For this he too shall pass away,
And there shall come another day,
Rats and roaches shall have their way,
I dreamt I saw the first creation,
Of humanity's earliest civilization,
From a distance it looked rather nice,
Rather like a paradise,
They carved their stones to tell their tales,
And dug their very first wishing wells,
They sowed their soils they plowed them deep,
So their first harvest they could reap,
And to further increase their population,
They invented irrrigation,
They got their seeds from nature's garden,
And cut the remainder in the bargain,
The said to the rest you have no value,
Uproot yourselves we're going to plow you,
So a little of the biosphere disappeared,
And the civilized said that's good and cheered,
We with big brains and hands shall rule the earth,
We'll till the soil for all it's worth,
We'll build our temples to our gods,
And subdue our neighbors those uncivilized clods,
With our wheat our rye our barley our corn,
A new man has now been born,
And of course they also planted beans,
To complete agricultural man's proteins,
And so the population grew,
From where other animals and plants did to,
Tigris,Euphrates and the Nile,
Cradles of civilization for a while,
The Tigres and Euphrates silted in,
Somewhere else to begin again,
Go out and multiply said the man on top,
Reproduce until you drop,
And that's just what they've been doing,
While the biosphere they're misconstruing,
Trouble for civilization is still brewing,
Around the world the ruins lay,
Reminders of a better day,
Modern man he doesn't heed them,
Only for tourism do they please him,
For this he too shall pass away,
And there shall come another day,
Rats and roaches shall have their way,
I dreamt I saw the first creation,
Of humanity's earliest civilization,
From a distance it looked rather nice,
Rather like a paradise,
They carved their stones to tell their tales,
And dug their very first wishing wells,
They sowed their soils they plowed them deep,
So their first harvest they could reap,
And to further increase their population,
They invented irrrigation,
They got their seeds from nature's garden,
And cut the remainder in the bargain,
The said to the rest you have no value,
Uproot yourselves we're going to plow you,
So a little of the biosphere disappeared,
And the civilized said that's good and cheered,
We with big brains and hands shall rule the earth,
We'll till the soil for all it's worth,
We'll build our temples to our gods,
And subdue our neighbors those uncivilized clods,
With our wheat our rye our barley our corn,
A new man has now been born,
And of course they also planted beans,
To complete agricultural man's proteins,
And so the population grew,
From where other animals and plants did to,
Tigris,Euphrates and the Nile,
Cradles of civilization for a while,
The Tigres and Euphrates silted in,
Somewhere else to begin again,
Go out and multiply said the man on top,
Reproduce until you drop,
And that's just what they've been doing,
While the biosphere they're misconstruing,
Trouble for civilization is still brewing,
...............
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/03/08/1691411/bombshell-recent-warming-is-amazing-and-atypical-and-poised-to-destroy-stable-climate-that-made-civilization-possible/?mobile=nc
Bombshell: Recent Warming Is ‘Amazing And Atypical’ And Poised To Destroy Stable Climate That Enabled Civilization
New Science Study Confirms ‘Hockey Stick’: The Rate Of Warming Since 1900 Is 50 Times Greater Than The Rate Of Cooling In Previous 5000 Years!
Temperature change over past 11,300 years (in blue, via Science, 2013) plus projected warming this century on humanity’s current emissions path (in red, via recent literature).A stable climate enabled the development of modern civilization, global agriculture, and a world that could sustain a vast population. Now, the most comprehensive “Reconstruction of Regional and Global Temperature for the Past 11,300 Years” ever done reveals just how stable the climate has been — and just how destabilizing manmade carbon pollution has been and will continue to be unless we dramatically reverse emissions trends.
Researchers at Oregon State University (OSU) and Harvard University published their findings today in the journal Science. Their funder, the National Science Foundation, has a news release:
With data from 73 ice and sediment core monitoring sites around the world, scientists have reconstructed Earth’s temperature history back to the end of the last Ice Age.In short, thanks primarily to carbon pollution, the temperature is changing 50 times faster than it did during the time modern civilization and agriculture developed, a time when humans figured out where the climate conditions — and rivers and sea levels — were most suited for living and farming. We are headed for 7 to 11°F warming this century on our current emissions path — increasing the rate of change 5-fold yet again.
The analysis reveals that the planet today is warmer than it’s been during 70 to 80 percent of the last 11,300 years.
… during the last 5,000 years, the Earth on average cooled about 1.3 degrees Fahrenheit–until the last 100 years, when it warmed about 1.3 degrees F.
By the second half of this century we will have some 9 billion people, a large fraction of the whom will be living in places that simply can’t sustain them — either because it is too hot and/or dry, the land is no longer arable, the glacially fed rivers have dried up, or the seas have risen too much.
We could keep that close to 4°F — and avoid the worst consequences — but only with immediate action.
This research vindicates the work of Michael Mann and others showing that recent warming is unprecedented in the past 2000 years — the so-called Hockey Stick — and in fact extends that back to at least 4000 years ago. I should say “vindicates for the umpteenth time” (see “Yet More Studies Back Hockey Stick: Recent Global Warming Is Unprecedented In Magnitude And Speed And Cause“).
Lead author Shaun Marcott of OSU told NPR that the paleoclimate data reveal just how unprecedented our current warming is: “It’s really the rates of change here that’s amazing and atypical.” He noted to the AP, “Even in the ice age the global temperature never changed this quickly.”
And the rate of warming is what matters most, as Mann noted in an email to me:
This is an important paper. The key take home conclusion is that the rate and magnitude of recent global warmth appears unprecedented for *at least* the past 4K and the rate *at least* the past 11K. We know that there were periods in the past that were warmer than today, for example the early Cretaceous period 100 million yr ago. The real issue, from a climate change impacts point of view, is the rate of change—because that’s what challenges our adaptive capacity. And this paper suggests that the current rate has no precedent as far back as we can go w/ any confidence—11 kyr arguably, based on this study.Katharine Hayhoe, an atmospheric scientist at Texas Tech University, told the AP:
We have, through human emissions of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases, indefinitely delayed the onset of the next ice age and are now heading into an unknown future where humans control the thermostat of the planet.Unfortunately, we have decided to change the setting on the thermostat from “Very Stable, Don’t Adjust” to “Hell and High Water.” It is the single most self-destructive act humanity has ever undertaken, but there is still time to aggressively slash emissions and aim for a setting of “Dangerous, But Probably Not Fatal.”
http://www.answers.com/topic/claude-henri-de-rouvroy-comte-de-saint-simon
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/claude-henri-de-rouvroy-comte-de-saint-simon#ixzz2MywQqpeo
Global
temperatures are warmer than at any time in at least 4,000 years,
scientists reported Thursday, and over the coming decades are likely to
surpass levels not seen on the planet since before the last ice age.
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An
enormous lake that has lain buried under Antarctic ice for millions of
years is home to a new kind of bacterial life, Russian scientists claim.
SAINT-SIMON AND CORPORATISM
www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/economic/060399.htm
[Saint-Simon, in Anthony p. 88, citing Manuel (1956)]. In other words, the moral good was whatever benefited industry. Whatever made a profit was morally good.The Post-Modern and the Post-Industrial: A Critical Analysis - Page 209 - Google Books Result
books.google.com/books?isbn=0521409527
Margaret A. Rose - 1991 - Philosophy
88 Tominaga, 'Post-Industrial Society and Cultural Diversity', p. 68, claims that Saint-Simon had coined the term industrial society in 1821. Various other dates ... |
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